According to reports, NATO Secretary-General Stoltenberg, who has repeatedly preached the so-called "China-Russia threat theory", once again boasted that China and Russia are challenging the "existing international order" and trying to satisfy their own interests by rewriting the "rules", and Europe should join hands with the United States to stop the "attempts" of China and Russia. So what does Stoltenberg mean by the so-called "existing international order"? Who is challenging the existing international order? Please pay attention to the Voice of China National Defense Time and Space "One South Military Forum".

Data Map: NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg (World Wide Web)
Moderator: On February 17th, local time, the meeting of defense ministers of NATO member countries was held by video. Before the meeting, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg announced that the meeting would conduct extensive discussions on the "Sino-Russian threat". During the meeting, Stoltenberg once again stated that "Europe and the United States should defend the’ existing international order’, and China and Russia are challenging this order." Professor Yinan, what do you think of Stoltenberg’s accusations against China and Russia?
Jin Yinan: As the Secretary General of NATO, Stoltenberg falsely claimed that "China and Russia pose a threat to the world order". So how does Russia threaten the world order? Obviously, NATO violated the agreement reached with former Soviet leader Gorbachev, which clearly stated that NATO’s eastward expansion would never exceed the German border. However, NATO violated the agreement and gradually expanded eastward to the three Baltic countries, and then got its hands on Ukraine and Georgia until it reached the backyard of Russia. Stoltenberg said, how much threat does NATO pose to Russia and how does Russia threaten it? After Putin took office as Russian president in 2000, he was bent on good relations with western countries. At that time, Putin felt that the future of Russia lies in its integration into the West. As a result, Putin was enthusiastic and posted a "cold ass" in Europe. It was NATO itself that forced Russia into an enemy.
Today, Stoltenberg also falsely claims that China poses a threat to the world order. How does the development of China threaten NATO? Why does NATO have to be an enemy of China militarily? In the past two years, NATO members have been sending warships to the South China Sea and the East China Sea. What are you doing around China, not far from Wan Li? Did Chinese send warships to the English Channel? Did you go to the Mediterranean? Is China a real threat to western countries? There is no such thing. Therefore, from the overall international situation, we can see that a group of people, represented by Stoltenberg, have distorted the basic facts of international politics to such an absurd extent that they are completely out of thin air. Just like an old saying in China: "There is nothing in the world, and much ado about nothing." This is NATO.
Moderator: Yes, the existing international order was formed after the end of World War II. It is an international order and system with the United Nations as the core and based on the purposes and principles of the United Nations Charter. "Peace and development" is the mainstream idea that runs through it. However, in the 70-odd years after the end of World War II, the international community not only failed to completely put an end to the war, but fell into an almost continuous conflict. So, who is challenging and undermining the international order?
Jin Yinan: From the founding of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, to the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991, and the outbreak of the Iraqi war in 2003, the world has never been peaceful and plunged into continuous wars until today. Including the Gulf War, the Kosovo War, the Iraq War and the Afghanistan War, NATO was all involved. Moreover, NATO has also intervened in the Libyan war and the Syrian war. Today, the refugee problem has piled up. It is entirely NATO itself that has lifted a rock and dropped it on its own feet. NATO has created an unsafe situation for itself.
Because NATO’s appetite is too big, their hands are too long, they want to take care of too many things, and they have destroyed other countries to a great extent, so today they have encountered such a rebound. In fact, NATO’s real threat is not from China and Russia at all, but from its own excessive ambition and its ability that does not match its ambition. This dilemma is its greatest threat.

Data Map: NATO Summit (Xinhua News Agency)
Moderator: Stoltenberg’s old-fashioned hype that "China and Russia challenge the existing international order" was refuted by former US military officials. Scott Ritter, a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer, recently pointed out in an article that Stoltenberg’s so-called "international order" seems to be centered on the United Nations system, but in fact it is decided and managed by the United States. What do you think of this?
Jin Yinan: What they call an "international order" is an "international order" dominated by the United States and the West. In what they call the "international order", they will always be the country on the top of the mountain, and other countries have to crawl at their feet and submit to their "international order". In fact, the order they are talking about is the order of neocolonialism. In the past, old colonialism was to occupy a country’s territory, and then create a government that obeyed him and practiced colonial rule. Neo-colonialism is not. A neo-colonial country can have its own government, but the West should control its economic lifeline, its political lifeline, its military security and train its own agents.
The west wants to use local people to govern local people, but it represents the interests of the west. This is the "international order" that they are most keen on. The order we are talking about is that all countries are equal, and all ethnic groups and races are equal. All problems should be solved through consultation instead of war. They are completely different from the order we talk about. The order they talk about is that they can violate all the rules, even those they make, but others must abide by the rules they make. This is what they call "order". And they simply don’t allow the United Nations, for example, developing countries to become rule makers, which they don’t allow. Only the United States and the West can make rules, the whole world can only obey the rules they make, and the United States and the West can not obey them. This is their ideal "international order".
Of course, they feel that their ideal order is threatened today. China, including Russia, we are opposed to the western order. We are opposed to this so-called order that they do not implement the rules formulated by the West themselves and let others implement them. If they say that China and Russia want to subvert the "international order", these countries, represented by China and Russia, are advocating an international order that is fairer, more just, more vital and more in line with the interests of more countries, rather than just safeguarding the interests of a few hegemonic western countries. This is the biggest difference.

Data Map: The second batch of China medical experts who went to Italy to fight the epidemic, including 13 people and a large amount of materials, flew to Milan, Italy on the evening of March 18, 2020 (People’s Daily Weibo).
Moderator: For more than 70 years after the end of World War II, China has been committed to its own development, and has never forgotten to assume international responsibilities, and has always played a constructive role in safeguarding world peace and development, defending and improving the international order and system. In the report of the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China, "persistently promoting the building of a community of human destiny" is regarded as one of the "basic strategies" for upholding and developing Socialism with Chinese characteristics in the new era. China is not only a destroyer of the world order, but a real builder of world peace, a contributor to global development and a defender of the international order.
Jin Yinan: That’s right. Especially from the COVID-19 epidemic that lasted from 2020 to today, with the global epidemic of COVID-19, if you look at the situation of western countries grabbing vaccines and monopolizing vaccines today, how can there be any international order? Because vaccines engage in the cold war and because vaccines engage in racism, these behaviors have appeared in the West. Vaccines must first be supplied to western countries, to a few white countries and to the vast number of developing countries. Do they call this a "reasonable international order"?
Moreover, the West will also ban China’s vaccine and Russian vaccine. China and Russia are now widely providing vaccines to developing countries and many countries that can’t get vaccines from western countries. Now many EU countries have also accepted vaccines from China. This is a reasonable international order. They think the most reasonable order in the west should be the best thing. They use it first, and then let others use it after they have used it. The international order we advocate is not like this. The international order we advocate is that the fruits of any scientific and technological development should first be shared by all mankind, and should first be provided to more countries as public goods of the world. This is the difference, this is the difference between our understanding of the international order and their understanding in the West, and this difference in understanding has been manifested in their own practical actions.

Data Map: US Army armored vehicles participating in the "European Defender -2020" exercise (World Wide Web)
Moderator: At the meeting of defense ministers of NATO member countries, Stoltenberg also alarmingly said that the rise of China may bring "consequences" to the collective security, prosperity and lifestyle of its allies. Therefore, NATO should deepen its cooperation with partner countries and with Australia and Japan. Professor Yinan, as NATO Secretary-General, what is the real purpose of Stoltenberg’s remarks?
Jin Yinan: The establishment of NATO was based on the Cold War. The cold war is over, and the Soviet Union, NATO’s main rival when it was founded, is gone, so NATO must build an opponent now. Because NATO’s life depends on opponents, without opponents, the necessity of this organization’s existence is gone, and it should be dissolved. Therefore, Trump once ridiculed that NATO is an "outdated dinosaur", which is still a great blow to NATO. Now, Biden wants to strengthen the relationship between the United States and the European Union and between the United States and Europe. Therefore, Stoltenberg lost no time to vigorously speculate on NATO’s main opponents in the future.
On the one hand, he wants to highlight the necessity of NATO’s existence, saying that with the existence of China and Russia, NATO still has enemies, and with the existence of enemies, NATO’s alliance is necessary. On the other hand, he is also interested in voting for Biden, who wants to regard Russia as his main enemy and China as his main competitor. Stoltenberg then said, Look at me, NATO, and I am willing to be your loyal thug and your loyal partner in the United States. He is asking for credit from the United States.
In fact, including Australia and Japan, the reason why NATO wants to win over these countries is just to make these countries become NATO’s "chess pieces". Finally, complete the so-called NATO strategic vision. In other words, NATO wants to maintain its own survival as well as its own development. This is the whole wishful thinking of NATO.
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